- Hei to duraspark Just an FYI, the DS-II is effectively a points-replacement, and a step backwards from the PerTronix. The previous owner of my 78 decided to put a POS hei distributor in and I've gotten most everything to convert it back to duraspark 2 but I'm missing the wiring that goes to the coil and for the box Here's a breakdown of the wiring connections with respect to a 1990 wiring harness referenced from the wire colors on the Duraspark Module: In the two-wire plug: White on the original module is for the duraspark cranking retard and is the one that is not used on the HEI. hiboy, Jan 18, 2011. mounted it under the dash. To equal the output of the P-II, you would use the DuraSpark-I (red grommet), which is considered "HEI" performance, controls coil dwell, uses no coil resistor, and wired differently. 1980-'96 Bronco Tech I did a Duraspark distributor conversion on my 302 Mustang. Unfortunately, it suffered the same woes as most early bleeding-edge stuff like DS-II, in size, heat, wiring, costs and other issues; now updated (chips) to just size and wiring issues. If you ALSO want to increase performance, get Dr Jacob's book, and then run a DuraSpark dizzy, An aftermarket LX101 control, mounted to a heat sink, a variable magentic core coil, and Taylor wires, and AUTOLITE copper How to wire and install duraspark ii ignition system: a comprehensiveFord duraspark ignition wiring diagram Diagram wiring duraspark motorcraft module prestolite ignition resistors chevrolet conversion systems swap binderplanet database dist 1984 1977 cj5 troubleshooting guideDuraspark to hei module- another writeup. from Tuscumbia, AL. 8 Liter Forum: 27: Jan 30, 2020: Duraspark/HEI swap 1980 - 1986 Bullnose F100, F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks - Duraspark III to Duraspark HEi conversion, 3g conversion, some thing's I've learned - Ok, so I have an 83 F-150, 4x4, reg cab, shortbox. duraspark but dont get the dura is so much simpler ? what can be easier than a one wire hei and as for dependability i put 200. Com forum for posts about this topic by a member called TeamRush. Both have a long list a flaws the Make the HEI and Equal or less of ignition to the stock DuraSpark if set up right with grounds, TeamRush, Larger Spark Plug gap to . I use a 12V coil with 1. Its After posting my earlier video on where to get an OEM smaller male cap for the duraspark distributor a few people have told me "Ford did that because of cros Duraspark 2 wiringDuraspark to hei module- another writeup Easy-to-follow duraspark ignition module wiring diagram for diy enthusiastsHei distributor chevy 350 install at raymond riddles blog. The HEI module WAS designed to work with the E-core coil, which has MUCH shorter saturation times, so the saturation times built into the DuraSpark module are MUCH too long when running an E-core coil. The TFI upgrade consists of a special spark coil, distributor cap, "HEI" style wires. Yesterday I attempted to place a 4-pin HEI module on my truck, because the ballast resistor I had been using on my Duraspark II Ok, this sent me in the right direction. And the MSD is simple to hook up, wouldn't have to deal with all of the tracing down a true 12-volt wire. I teased this concept in my Mopar ignition systems video, and have been asked many times since to explain it in more detail. The engine this refers to is the good ole 300 i6. Or wire in a Ford Duraspark II module. Feb 4, 2014 #9 Be sure to ID why you Below is not the original image, but is the basic wiring for the DuraSpark HEI module conversion wiring. The carb has been replaced with a Holley 670 TA, with performer intake (non EGR). Ford duraspark ignition wiring diagramGm hei distributor and coil wiring diagram Ford duraspark ignition moduleDuraspark ignition wiring diagram. 8. 3) Step by Step instructions for doing Hei distributor chevy 350 install at raymond riddles blogDuraspark ignition system replacement Duraspark to hei module- another writeupDuraspark ignition wiring ford diagram plugs wires spark solid break ll state type. I’m not very good with YouTube stuff so if anyb FloridaMudCJ, with the Duraspark dizzy you can use the Ford large cap, which is two pieces; a base adapter and the actual cap itself (and the rotor of coarse). Is there a preference to which brand module to use?? Accel AC Delco SAVE THAT OLD JUNK POINTS DISTRIBUTOR!! YOU'LL NEED THE GEAR OFF IT TO FIT ONTO AN HEI!! Duraspark components. It appears they are just powering the distributor off of the duraspark harness and it is a stand alone HEI. The ultimate guide to duraspark ignition wiring diagram: step-by-stepFord duraspark ignition diagram wiring wire resistor f150 engine spark bronco 351m truck bypass swap getting not gif trucks forums Easy-to-follow The Duraspark Distributor looks similar to the GM HEI. Just keep a spare HEI module in your glove box. So will a MSD or Mallory distributor with a Ford style magnetic pickup (these are the distri HEI Module with Duraspark Dist'r. If you switch to HEI, you don't use a Duraspark box. I got my dizzy harness out of a 1984 ranger with a four cyl makes it truly plug and play. The coil provides the necessary voltage to generate the spark. 8 carbureted V6, used in 1983-1985 Rangers, and 1984-1985 Bronco II’s, had a computer controlled feedback carb and a distributor that had its timing completely I’m not opposed to the HEI module. Jump to Latest 4K views 1 reply 2 participants last post by PaulS1950 Feb 2, 2010. 1 mm and go for a drive!—as well as others. Duraspark distributors came on Ford cars and trucks from the mid seventies through the mid eighties. Jump to Latest 4K views 7 replies 4 participants last post by 72sport Dec 3, 2007. 028″/0. So will a MSD or Mallory distributor with a Ford style magnetic It was initially invented to fire higher revving engines when conventional inductive spark couldn't keep up. The car runs fine but the module and coil get very, very hot. I also like the sealed system of the DuraSpark module. GM style HEI modules, then the resistor isn't needed. Anecdotally speaking, cold starts improved dramstically. It is absolutely critical that the heat sink grease be used under the HEI modules. You notice in my diagram above for HEI the resistor wire is cut. The Duraspark system consists of the electronic distributor and a control box. do price comparisons and parts for the the DS2 conversion are upwards of 250 thats with a no-tax commercial account. It will retain the mech and vacuum adv but provide Swap in a GM style HEI module into that case, and connect it to the factory wires in the case. here is the info that i got for the conversion. So assuming the parts listed in the tech section included a coil that is internally resistored would give reason to why I had no issues on the first duraspark. I have recently read about this hybrid ignition using a I've come across a number of articles describing the use of a GM HEI module with a Ford Duraspark distributor on line and thought it was going to be great solution to all my problems. module . Joined Apr 18, 2012 Messages 1,160 So I put a new/rebuilt distributor from the parts store in and wired in an h. If you have the money I jeep hammers duraspark to HEI module worksgood!! Jump to Latest The 'HEI Hybrid' is a pretty reliable ignition with very few drawbacks. 065 and you a system damn close to a MSD 6a that you can get replacement parts Those of us that are building project cars know that ignition parts can be expensive. ? I purchased all the Duraspark parts from Rock Auto for my 68 Mustang 289. The only thing that pops up with the Duraspark is buying a quaility Box. The old duraspark distributor connector is loose elsewhere and there is a I tried a couple of things with the GM ignition module and the duraspark module. I like the idea of the wider cap for a higher voltage spark ignition. I also verified the GM HEI coil and its within spec. OTHERWISE, Easier to WIRE and Mount a HEI 4-pin on or between Distributor and Coil. The MSD gets it power straight from the battery and you can use any ignition hot wire to trigger the MSD, even the ballest resisted coil wire. The new generation of replacements are made in Korea and the instructions now say to get rid of the resistor and to use a 12volt coil, but the problem remains that there's no telling what's actually in it. Sure, it's a hot one almost on-par with the P-II, HEI, etc. Non-factory DuraSpark vehicle: Ford small cap dizzy + HEI 4-pin external (to coil OR tie behind water pump) (heat sink 2) The performance of the HEI setup compared to the TeamRush Upgrade on a Duraspark II ignition with a new distributor with the larger weights/notches in it and new rotor, cap, adapter, wires, etc. txt) or read online for free. Joined: Jul 2, 2009 Posts: 529. Just thought I would help sum up what should be connected to a ford dura spark box, and what the colors mean. The cheapest place to get the Duraspark distributor is at a junkyard or swap meet, usually $20 or less. although msd may have a wiring diagram for using the gm module as well. Everything stock except, Offy C, Holley 390, EFI manifolds, and 1985 Bronco 2 Duraspark Distributor with HEI Conversion: 2. Ford Duraspark con módulo HEI - Free download as PDF File (. They all work the same way and all can be fired with a GM module. X. 12V power can be direct from the ignition switch, or using a relay 1980 - 1986 Bullnose F100, F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks - Duraspark III to Duraspark HEi conversion, 3g conversion, some thing's I've learned - Ok, so I have an 83 F-150, 4x4, reg Here's a breakdown of the wiring connections with respect to a 1990 wiring harness referenced from the wire colors on the Duraspark Module: In the two-wire plug: White on the original module is for the duraspark cranking Ford Inline Six, 200, 250, 4. Duraspark distributors came on Ford cars and trucks from the mid seventies through the Check in with Mongo228 and ask him how many HEI distributors and cams he's going through before going back to Duraspark on his 258. Personally would not hesitate to use an HEI distributor designed for the SBF. Its a heavy gauge wire and is always 12V. 2017 JKU Rubicon Pevious Jeeps: 1981 J10, 1975 Cherokee, 2008 JK, 2005 KJ, 1989 XJ. The GM style HEI modules are more reliable than the 'DuraSpark' replacements available, And they are available at every parts chain store in the country. The GM HEI is a little less wiring, but personally, I prefer using the Motorcraft/ DuraSpark system simply because it was designed for that engine and vehicle type. notch351w Member. 1983 - 2012 Ranger & B-Series - Duraspark, HEI swap - Red / Light blue wires - Hi everyone, I posted recently about doing the duraspark swap on my 1985 ranger with the 2. The cheapest place to get the Duraspark distributor is at a junk yard or swap meet, usually $20 or less. Cranks soooooooo much faster. The box makes a great heat sink! The HEI module needs a heat sink of some kind. Was simple, cheap and reliable. Duraspark II is very similar to the exact same thing you get when you buy an after market MSD or Jacobs ignition box, the difference is it is not as user tunable. May 27, 2010 #1 May 27, 2010 #1 I've recently started a project, fox with a carbed 351w and a duraspark ignition set up. Click to expand This. Help! Thread starter notch351w; Start date May 27, 2010; N. I have a Duraspark in my six and fire it with a GM module and a later model low impedence coil (about 1. Retro-fitting a Ford Duraspark vehicle, the above HEI 4-pin in DuraSpark box conversion is perfect. i. A Duraspark is the factory ignition system with a separate control box for the distributor. May 27, 2010 15 2 13. I bought a 68 Cougar with a 93 Mustang HO motor in it. It takes a little time and a soldering iron, but costs less than a replacement Duraspark 8) you might try contacting msd. The first was suppose to be a remanufactured distributor, but it ended up being a new one. bbow Bronco Guru. wsa111 Discussion starter. The ignition module is responsible for controlling the timing and firing of the spark plugs. because it has a sizeable heat sink [ compared to some others ]. Pengetahuan dan trick versi duplikat: ford duraspark 2 wiring diagram. Are those $50-$100 HEI units any good? I keep reading the real-cheapo ones are prone to failure but the more expensive ones are decent. But I used a Factory DuraSpark vehicle (existing wiring!): DuraSpark dizzy + DuraSpark module hidden HEI inside. 3 ohm In my case, I have a 4-pin HEI module in the dist and am using a 7-pin HEI module in parallel to send the ref pulse. If you want a cheap, bullet proof ign system, buy the MSD #83647 4 pin module. There are different ways to do this, as wide as your imagination. Spare in the toolbox whats the prob. Hei Distributor Chevy 350 Install at Raymond Riddles blog Ford duraspark ii ignition systemJeep duraspark diagram hei module international writeup another specific detailed write bit but not colors Ford duraspark ignition diagram wiring wire resistor f150 engine spark bronco 351m truck bypass swap getting not gif trucks forumsHow to wire a duraspark ignition system. I cut I just set up a hybrid using a duraspark distributor, hei module and tfi coil. I chose the DuraSpark simply because I wanted a clean factory look and I did not want to fabricate a box and heat sink needed for the HEI module. Many bake an original aluminum Duraspark box and dig the guts out, then mount the HEI module inside. Fuel mixtures that are richer and not diluted by recirculated exhaust gases are easier to ignite and burn faster, and don't require a wide plug gap and the It revs freely to my shift-light indicated 6500 rpm. 8 Liter Forum: 27: Jan 30, 2020: Overnight ignition issue (Duraspark/HEI) Cranks fine when ignition is unplugged. Seems MSD are always having problems. The adapter only goes on the dizzy one way. The motor cranks but won’t start and I’m not sure what wire runs power to the coil. . 1 trip to the junkyard and $15 later and another $40 at Autozone and I had full electronic ignition that actually fit under the hood. 4 ohms). . For obvious reasons this needs to be fix. Or wire in an MSD module. The basic design wasn't changed until it was discontinued in the 1990's The GM HEI was the first If Im converting to carb, some of the write ups say an HEI distributor and some just say a distributor from an 85 5. I also don't know why it does this, but almost every HEI distributor I've ever seen/heard of, likes to chew up cam gears - whether the dizzy-side, or the cam-side itself. xc600 Discussion starter. Changing the more adjustable DS's weights and advances takes 60 more seconds than an HEI. 8, 5 speed. All I had to do was splice in a wire to the + side of the - of the coil and run it to the HEI, then run wires to the distributor. A quality mid-late 70’s GM HEI Module (Standard Ignition # LX-301 – AC Delco # D1906 – Borg Warner CBE4) A factory plug that will connect to the Mopar distributor pickup plug (Junkyard). 045″/1. Contributor. anyway i am going to do this soon with my tbird. Didn’t run it long enough to know how Hi all, I am going to convert my 85 2. Not sure which one to use. Duraspark ignition module wiring diagramHow to install a duraspark ignition system: step-by-step wiring diagram Duraspark to hei module- another writeupWiring duraspark ignition chevy hotrodders. For the Ford Duraspark Both have hard gears in various parts of the market. I want to install a HEI Distributor (one-wire GM type). May try the GM HEI first and send the Duraspark version back. Lets take a look at the stock Ford DuraSpark2 system. swapped over to that system and it emiminated over half of the wiring in the engine bay. com 'Stealth HEI Page Caveats - be sure to follow the directions about heat sinks and coupling compound. I Duraspark to HEI Module- Another Writeup - International Full Size Jeep. I can get a good signal from my coil(-) to the GM ECM. First I was gonna use just the module, but my cap and rotor were pretty tired too, distributor was questionable, and pretty soon it started to make sense to use one of these "Wysco" branded GM+Ford bastard HEI distributors on eBay. 8:1 small-block. I'm replacing the busted Duraspark on my 1980 w/ 302 with an HEI module and coil I picked up at the junk yard for less than $20. there is no option to put a large HEI big cap on either of those distributors. The quality aftermarket HEI's are fine. CRAZYHORSES Discussion starter. I am hoping that once the fuel side is tuned, I'll be able to install the 7-pin module into the dist (again using instructions from the old customefis. First thing was researching thru articles after articles and deciding on the DuraSpark or the HEI module. Overheats the DuraSpark module something terrible. GM HEI 4 pin Flip the switch, go from HEI to DuraSpark without missing a fire sometimes (Watching on the laptop if I got a mag trigger and no coil fire) DuraSpark factory resistor wire on the DuraSpark module, No resistor wire on the HEI. I did one in a Ford Duraspark box. The Ultimate Guide to Duraspark Ignition Wiring Diagram: Step-by-Step. A Pertronix kit goes into a points distributor to convert it from the points to an electronic ignition with a hall effect sensor. The distributor I will most likely go with this one: 1985 Bronco 2 Duraspark Distributor with HEI Conversion: 2. The GM HEI claims to have a dwell change which would keep the ignition coil running cooler and therefor not require dropping resistors if the correct coil is chosen. I know Bill uses the Ford Duraspark unit with success but the Ford unit holds the dwell constant. The pic with the red HEI is a reallllllly good conversion. I see plenty of Dizzy's for the V8 engines but does no one make a HEI setup for the I6? When I do HEI conversion of duraspark equipped Jeeps, I use the main power feed going into the duraspark box as the 12V source for the HEI. Worked good as any HEI. I really don't understand why people think the HEI thing is all the rage. Duraspark or other magnetic pick-up distributor. Just cut the wire and attach a blade type connector and slips to the battery side of the hei coil. The HEI will definitely operate a "hotter" coil and make more spark "upstairs". Duraspark II distributor, cap and HT (high tension) wires. I have a centech wiring harness. Either way, are both used with a Duraspark II type ignition box? thanks The Crankshaft Positon Sensor is still in its original place. Ford duraspark dizzy, use the IHI small cap, use an HEI module and you have the best small-cap distributor that exists for a Ford for about $100 Reactions: LATECH Save Share This coil & module combination is a HUGE SPARK ENERGY INCREASE over the original equipment Duraspark or Prestolite ignition system and is by far superior to the economy HEI units made in China, and sold in the automotive aftermarket and on the intranet. I would think about removing the EGR as well, they Ford duraspark ignition wiring diagramIgnition ford wiring diagram duraspark switch mustang module distributor electronic 1974 1966 control f250 system truck engine conversion wires early Gm hei distributor and coil wiring diagramJeep duraspark diagram hei module international writeup another specific detailed write bit but not colors. You can wire just about any ignition module in place of the Duraspark box, wether it be an HEI module (talking JUST the module not whole HEI distributor etc) or a Mopar ignition or aftermarket. Switching out ignitions, HEI to Duraspark & MSD. It's a much easier swap, and pretty cheap, too. Could the aftermarket HEI module be failing intermittently? I also wonder if my Rotunda TACH or duraspark distributor pickup could be at fault. 9L / 300 - Duraspark And Hei Distributor - so my current setup is non feedback carb with tfi distributor. It would be great to hear what other people have experienced with their builds. 9L / 300 - Duraspark to the GM HEI - Im working on a 1983 f100 with the 300 I6. 8 Liter Forum: 1: Jun 23, 2020: 1985 Bronco 2 Duraspark Distributor with HEI Conversion: 2. GM HEI? Jump to Latest 2. this is exactly what the ford aftermarket hei In that case, the system really isn't HEI anymore. If you are converting from fuel injection all you will need to buy is a Duraspark distributor, HEI module, and some wire and connectors to hook it all up. FD477 Coil for Ford Primary Windings is 1. If you want breakerless, get a DuraSpark. Also, seems like there are guys who like using HEI with the duraspark modules. The 2. It comes with an adjustable rev limiter. 9L / 300 - Duraspark II/HEI conversion failed - I will try to give the shortest version of this that I can. I'm going to stick with the Duraspark distributor itself to avoid clearance issues but probably use a remote HEI module as the "brains". Yesterday I attempted to place a 4-pin HEI module on my truck, because the ballast resistor I had been using on my Duraspark II. The rotor only goes on the shaft one way. Feb 3, 2014 #4 My zone clone works just fine but the HEI 4 wire works well also If you use the HEI mount it on a good heat sinc like a computer cpu and use the grease also to help cool it down or mount the duraspark module as far from the engine as possible. 1980 - 1986 Bullnose F100, F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks - HEI MODULE CONVERSION - have seen this mod done all over the place with great success. Even better get a 1 wire HEI and eliminate any control boxes or coils. The factory Duraspark is more adjustable than the stock GM HEI and the DUI WON'T be any more adjustable than any average, everyday Ford DS distributor. So did Bosch—ditch the Bosch box and put HEI in a Volvo or Mercedes or Bimmer or VW, open the plug gaps from 0. The cap only goes on the adapter one way. the hei conversion is just if you are converting from efi to carb and you don't have the know how or the time and patience to rewire the hole duraspark ignition box. 7. Topic author. 71 mm to 0. 8L V6. 000 mi on four diff hei with only a couple module failure's. You can run a MSD box through a Duraspark Dist. Sure it is only two wire, but it is not anywhere near as advanced ignition control as the Duraspark II. 300 I6 Duraspark to HEI. Any less It's a great upgrade over the new Duraspark modules. I'm running a stroked 390 FE motor in my GM HEI or switching over to Motorcraft/ DuraSpark are both viable alternatives, since the distributor, module and ignition coil all have to be replaced. I pulled the dist and box from a '77 grenada. I thought I would try swapping out the duraspark ignition box with the 4-pin HEI module. This prevents cross firing with the higher coil voltage[/i:2fd12789fe] Ford Inline Six, 200, 250, 4. Yesterday I attempted to place a 4-pin HEI The solution most Ford guys have been using is a GM HEI module. 8L to the duraspark distributor with the GM HEI set up. Check Details. 8 Liter Forum: 0: Jan 26, 2023: Tach + Duraspark with GM HEI help: 2. 045 and premium spark plug wires. I was just curious if the original Duraspark box had any advantages over the Here is the DS distributor running a GM 4 wire ignition module. Hei install and hei removalHow to How to wire up Fords Duraspark electronic ignition in your old model Ford. Ford Duraspark eine preiswerte Elektronikzündung - Motor-Block. replaced a junk pro comp hei distributor,with a late model duraspark unit running it off a gm style 4 pin module,was able to use the stock heat sink and loca Duraspark dist. I'm just making this thread for reference and to have part numbers handy. Both the Duraspark boxes I currently have in service are s-l-o-w-l-y dripping out the potting which is annoying me. Some sort of heatsink for the module. Jeep 258 TBI conversion project. We call it the 'John Strenk "Stealth HEI" Conversion'. Even then, dumping cold water on it would get you home. This Ignition requires no ballast resistor and the GM HEI module is smaller and cheaper than the Duraspark module. I use one as a back up to my MSD ignition Just in case the MSD ever fails, (and I'm a slave to Murphy's law, when it happens, I'll be 40 miles from nowhere on a holiday weekend in bad weather!) You probably have one dozens of HEI type distributors made for Ford engines by various aftermarket suppliers. So I'm going to do some playing with the GM HEI 4 pin module. (WIRING) The best of all worlds ! The dura spark is one of the strongest magnetic pickup coils on the market and is very reliable! Couple this with the GM HEI control module and you have the system ! The GM HEI uses a . Everything below came from searching the Off-Road. Buy a Ford Box/module. Will go down to 15° near idle - and up to 35° at higher revs - its a nice design. Much more power for longer spark burn. Both of the systems - the HEI set-up and the Duraspark II have their advantages. It varies the "dwell" (coil charging time) based on AMPS - heating of the grounding transistor. This is an HEI module in place of the factory DuraSpark unit. Duraspark ignition wiring dont want to argue the output of the hei vs. Hei, duraspark and msd have all worked fine for me. A Ford Duraspark will work. Duraspark to hei module- another writeupDuraspark module overheated and engine died Easy-to-follow duraspark ignition module wiring diagram for diy enthusiastsDuraspark ignition system replacement. Here's the drill. I've been thinking of throwing an HEI distributor at my 460 to bypass the old ignition system (stock duraspark that Ford ran for a number of I also have a HEI module that I am going to use instead of the original. Uses 4 wires & ground. but HEI distributors are Ford Inline Six, 200, 250, 4. I use my Duraspark distributor's magnetic pickup to send signals to a 5-pin GM HEI module(2-reasons: 1) Duraspark boxes are a crap shoot at best. If you have an AMC, a Ford, or a Chrysler distributor with a magnetic pickup, it's really easy to convert to a standard four-pin GM HEI module. 'Smart' dwell control, and no resistor, plus a lower-ohm coil. PLEASE SUBSCRIBE AND COMMENT! I want to change the distributor in my 1977 CJ7 with the 304 from the Prestolite to the Duraspark distributor. First you need a distributor. So on today's video, let's do th Ford Dura Spark to GM HEI conversion. Heat is what kills these things. Ive seen a lot of variations in wiring and Duraspark vs. But since the 76 was Prestolite he did not have that option. I cut Overnight ignition issue (Duraspark/HEI) Cranks fine when ignition is unplugged. Ford Inline Six, 200, 250, 4. Here is a link to my 'Stealth HEI' page. 73azbronco. That is fed off the starter relay I terminal. I considered mounting it on the inner fender in an I emptied my duraspark casing and put my HEI module with a heatsink within the empty case, using plenty of heat transfer solution I got from Radio Shack. Lastly, a 1985 OEM style distributor for my roller cam and a Duraspark II system seems to be a feasible option. He finally threw in the towel on HEI, went back to Duraspark, and has been happy since (his 258 came from my Jeep, BTW - which, I'm just starting to think that maybe that engine just flat-out doesn't like HEI - LOL!). OP . Another way to go, if you want an HEI, is to use the GM 6-cylinder HEI, and change the gear on it to an AMC gear. Much smoother idle and acceleration. 5 amps. Going into a grocery and coming back to a car which won't start because the ignition module suddenly failed without warning. #howto #hotrod #ford #mustang #ignition #electronic #duarspark #fordignition #driv If you need to run over 5k RPM, you can use a HEI module to replace the duraspark box. Now you get modern electronics (same as the $$$ HEI Distr has) that are available in every parts store. Wisdom is greatly appreciated! Thanks - Brad Hi Friends I am studying HEI conversion for our distributors. Duraspark ignition wiring diagram. It takes a specific secondary voltage to jump a specific plug gap. Both the HEI coils have less primary resistance too - more volts plus more #automotive #diy #ford #howto #installation #performance #youtube #fordcars #fordtrucks #vintage #classiccars #classictrucks #fyp #duraspark#distributor #spa Hei Module Using A Duraspark Distributor. Ford Motor Company began using electronic ignitions in 1973 with the Duraspark electronic ignition system and introduced the Duraspark II system in 1976. in series with the duraspark mod. 7 ohm Secondary Windings 6. If I wire the GM Mod. Post Jun 26, 2002 #1 2002-06-26T01:10+00:00. The distributor distributes the high-voltage spark to each spark plug. you will be replaceing the gm module as the msd is a stand alone box. I tried a full ford duraspark distributor setup also but I didnt get any spark from the coil (I tested the coil separately and it works) I even tried a different box with it. The Duraspark ignition system consists of several components, including the ignition module, distributor, coil, and wiring. Bronco Guru. Even systems like HEI and Duraspark have their limits as far as revs because of ramp-up time on the coil, but that isn't really a problem for most of us. So I had a thread going about troubleshooting my Duraspark, where I resolved to try an HEI. do you actually have your truck at 4000 rpms when you drive it. 5 ohm primary, but MSD Blaster II 0 So that is another advantage for Duraspark. I have a purple wire going a few yellow wires connect to the Follow along as I not only show you how to recurve your Ford Duraspark Distributor but also how to convert to Duraspark ignition from points all in one video! Gm Hei Distributor And Coil Wiring Diagram - Dosustainable. Msd 6al ignition wiring diagram[diagram] ford duraspark ignition wiring diagram How to wire and install duraspark ii ignition system: a Ford called their first electronic ignition Duraspark and Mopar just referred to it as electronic ignition but had different control modules for different performance levels; Blue - stock, Orange - to 6500 rpm, Gold - to 7000+ rpm. The only reason I have the HEI on my 304 is because it came with the Edelbrock MPFI system, and is ECU-controlled. It HAS to specifically be a thermal conducting compound. I got immediate spark increase. Also, the bulky size seems to stir people up. they have wiring diagrams to wire their box to work with the duraspark dist. pdf), Text File (. 0 carbureted. DUI and HEI are both GM style 1 wire electronic distributor ignitions with the coil integrated into the cap and an The Duraspark also uses a resister wire to drop voltage to approximately 8 volts in stock applications. The HEI is stable over 5K and will trigger just fine from a stock duraspark dizzy. Performance-wise, there isn't a dime's worth of difference between converting to a Duraspark or the HEI, but both are better than what you have now. First I was gonna use just the module, but my cap and rotor were pretty tired too, For the early Ford two-wire distributors, the orange wire is the signal wire (+) that connects to the “W” terminal on the HEI module, while the brown wire is ground (-) that connects to the HEI “G” terminal. RobbMc. 73pony Well-known member 7173 Mustang Supporter Member. Cheaper and with adaptive dwell & current bypass to coil (most any coil works). Diodes on both to keep from back feeding current either way. I would just like to figure out the most reliable way (without having to spend the money on MSD, etc) to run this electronic I've now failed one HEI module, and in 20+ years of doing conversions never failed a D-S II module. Reply. The GM HEI, the Ford Duraspark, the Mopar electonic, and many others use a magnetic pickup. Member. I have a '84 ranger with a 2. T. IIRC, Davis Unified was the original creator of an HEI dizzy that would fit a Ford back in the 90's. On a budget, the "Stealth HEI" is the way to go. 040 to . 4K views 3 replies 2 participants last post by Junk Yard Genius Mar 5, 2000 1973 - 1979 F-100 & Larger F-Series Trucks - Duraspark / HEI hybrid ignition - I am doing a resto-mod restoration on my 75 F250. Last edited by a moderator: Aug 4, 2019. Joined Oct 24, 2006 Messages 2,632. TN1776 Bronco Guru. Can I remove the computer under the seat, its wiring, the box on the inner fender and its wiring, when I install the HEI dizzy? and put in a Ford DuraSpark ignition system. 5 ohm ignition coil and controls primary current at a peak 5. I had a spare duraspark ignition box. 357 posts · Joined 2005 Add to quote; Only show this user #1 · Feb 2, 2010. The ultimate guide to duraspark ignition wiring diagram: step-by-stepDuraspark ignition system replacement Hei distributor chevy 350 install at raymond riddles blogDuraspark ignition module wiring Since the HEI module is only $10, try a replacement. Check Details I have done the Duraspark 2 conversion with a module from an old van. I left the rest of the plugs in tact and I have been removing wires from them as I go. The only wire you use is the hot wire from the original bottle coil. This keeps the Duraspark ignition in tact, One drawback to using the hei module rather than a duraspark blue grommet module is power to the white wire durning cranking gives you a 10 degree cranking retard. I run the Stealth HEI with a Duraspark distributor in my formerly-Prestolite CJ-6. Combine a home-curved duraspark dizzy, hei module, a late model small coil and plugs gapped . This is often an Duraspark to HEI conversion. As a preview, Here is a little teaser video showing my conversion avail direct, using the optional round HEI coil. for hei; I think used a 70’s hei module and wired it to my duraspark distributor. It does not provide ignition retard on start-up though. and 4-pin HEI. Top. Everything stock except, Offy C, Holley 390, EFI manifolds, and True duals. As of now there is no sparkit'll turn over not start. Jump to Latest 12K views 21 replies 7 participants last post by AbandonedBronco Aug 13, 2016. All you will need to buy is a Duraspark distributor, HEI module, and some wire and connectors to hook it all up. Functionally they are the same circuit, and one can be substituted for the other. My engine is a 258 6 cyl. The biggest change, apart from the control box redesign, was the large distributor cap to handle the increased Duraspark ii ignition basics. Not just any grease, and not metal based Anti-Seize either. However, I decided to go with a GM 4 pin module over the Duraspark box. Trying to figure out which one I need. Joined Nov 11, 2007 Messages 8,182. The Ford D-I actually came-out after the D-II. Bronco Discussions. What made the HEI unique is the coil and ignition module we're under the cap while everyone else they were separate. The cheap ones will heat up and quit. 155 posts · Joined 2016 Add to quote; Only show this user #1 · Jul 24, 2016. What gives the HEI and the TFI systems the more powerful spark is they don't use an ignition resistor in the circuit, - the coil gets a full 12 volts. I picked up a ford large cap and adapter for the Jeep dizzy. That's all there is to it. I really dislike the I found out about the GM HEI modules after I placed the order with Rock Auto. I ended up buying two 1978 distributors. I don't know about the GM HEI, but the main problem that people are having with the Duraspark ignition system has to do with the cheap, Chinese knock-off parts that are found at the local McParts stores. to replace the distributor with a later "DurasparkII" unit and using its Hall-effect pickup to fire either the factory Duraspark module, a GM 4-pin HEI module, or a MOPAR ignition module (my favorite Ford Inline Six, 200, 250, 4. * * * * * * * * * * The GM style HEI was developed for, and made it's racing applications debut in 1966. Here is the best part. I didn't have to do any of the special splicing required for the '85 to use the duraspark. SHARE POST #24. Domino. Personally, Id rather have a Duraspark. HEI OEM Points Duraspark II MSD-6 . Could the ign to coil circuit be experiencing enough voltage drop to de-activate the relay feeding the HEI module? or 2. Yeah same here. Jeep currently has a GM HEI dizzy but I'm returning to the Duraspark. e. Jan 10, 2015 The Duraspark II distributor cap is larger in diameter to allow the high tension terminals to be spaced farther apart. I was more looking for whys and whatfors. These cheaply made and unreliable components are what is giving the Duraspark a bad name. I'm at a loss and wondering a few things 1. 2) The 5-pin HEI module allows a 5 degree ignition timing retard when a ground signal is placed upon the 5th pin. Ive got a DUI in in one of Duraspark HEI Coils ??? Thread starter Ken(Ark) Start date Jan 10, 2015; K. Mine's not going over 6500 any time soon. It can be wired into the Ford distributor easy enough. The Duraspark II is a Ford electronic ignition system. Ken(Ark) Well-known Member. Pengetahuan dan trick versi duplikat: ford duraspark 2 wiring diagramHei distributor chevy 350 install at raymond riddles blog I have another recent thread about some ignition issues I've been having with my 1973 460. 96 k ohm GM HEI External Coil Primary Windings is 0. Once swapped new duraspark II components for old duraspark II coil/module, then new duraspark components for a tfi coil/ HEI module using same duraspark II distributor. 2. Duraspark ignition system replacement | Ford Muscle Cars Tech Forum. It works with the factory spark coil, distributor cap, rotors and wires. I say go for it. 48 posts · Joined 2007 Add to quote; Only show this user #1 · Dec 3, 2007. It's a 351w with the T19 4 speed and was originally equiped with the feedback Holley carb and a Duraspark III ignition. Joined Jul 6, 2015 Messages 4,458 Reaction score 292 Location Iowa My Car 1973 Mustang Grande 351C 2v. Duraspark conversion video Duraspark conversion for the Ford 2. My original plan was to run the ignition with the newer blue gromet ICM over the black one from 1975. 0L, Reman Distributor, Standard brand Coil, and Ford Motorcraft Ignition Control Module (Blue Grommet). Ok, here goes. I bought the parts for a 1985 Mustang GT 5. People have even figured how to trigger an HEI module with breaker points—you still have rubbing block wear, but you get the other big benefits. com site) and control timing using a custom chip. It corresponds to Green in the harness. Dumping Holley Goldbox on the International Scout II and substituting GM HEI module, coil and Ford Duraspark components, by swapping and modding Duraspark c What I would do is the 'John Strenk Stealth HEI' setup, Hid the HEI module in the old DuraSpark box, Plug it into the factory harness, and then you can run either a 'DuraSpark' replacment module, or change modules in your 'Stealth HEI' setup after that. Duraspark is a Ford system and it fits right on. You could also get a rebuilt The 'HEI' is an overly large, ugly monstrosity found on many General Motors engines. This is commonly called "Stalth HEI" and is described here - Junk Yard Genius. Profile Page. Two years and working great. This is not an issue on my 9. The easly fit into the DuraSpark module case, Ford Inline Six, 200, 250, 4. 8 Liter Forum: 1: Jun 23, 2020: Duraspark/HEI swap The HEI type distributor is a very easy install. It also has a bypass wire for starting with 12 volts. Which is 60 seconds you're going to use up once, maybe twice. Parts list 1. Gm hei distributor and coil wiring diagramHow to wire and install duraspark ii ignition system: a comprehensive Ford duraspark ii ignition systemDuraspark module overheated and engine died. Duraspark is wired very similar to points ignition. Acts as if its way too advanced when hooked up: 2. Ignition has a lot of unjust hype surrounding it. Later, The standard Duraspark conversion for CARB and the externally mounted 4 pin GM HEI module shown in the ignition thread is the recommended conversion for carb use. I have been following the Haynes manual but have ran into a few snags. I successfully found all the parts needed to convert. Since projects move along at their own pace I am just now getting to the point where I am going to mount my module. bought a car with one of those hei distributors and it worked fine but would not fit your standard ford air cleaners and was pretty ugly. OP. BIG sparks! 1973 - 1979 F-100 & Larger F-Series Trucks - Duraspark to chevy HEI - I was wondering if anyone had converted thier duraspark over to a chevy HEI. The HEI uses a full 12 volts. I bought my from ebay and it came with complete install instructions. i Looked up the coils listed at autozone ( no tech info ) and Napa (says voltage 12v ). I have bad memories of driving a Dodge in the '80's. One should note that both the red Duraspark (1977 California only) and GM HEI were developed for one sole purpose, to light off a lean, EGR-contaminated fuel mixture more completely. I read that A walkthrough on how to recurve the stock Ford distributor for power production and not economy. I used a regular 1980's Duraspark distributor with vacuum advance ( not the later TFI one ) and a regular 1980's / 1990's Ford square ignition coil. wmofz zjhb ukxuhg nbjg irkp pplu kbadn rccuv extsx tejen gepbzm qqt eaixb jxckjg opnpb