Anyone wanna ship it ? I’ll pay extra. My math doesn't seem to pass the reality check (for THC at least). I do find that CBG gives me a bit of a different headspace if you will. Took dose prior to any meal. Jaxxie1981. subject 1 - 350 - 400 mg dose - male late 30 early 40's. Doesn’t impair me like crazy though. Finesse-yomammas-dro. Curious if it’s degrading to CBN and just not as psychoactive in oil. ? I'm not actually so familiar with the chemistry of hhc-o or CBN. Also angel industries. I use edibles, and the "Punch Bar" works perfectly. Just like any edible it will take some time to kick in. If there is more CBD than THC in the edible, the oil is hemp derived, mother liquor left over after CBD is isolated out of it. I picked up a variety of Wyld gummies at SOL, they had BOGO which I thought was a solid deal. CBN, or Cannabinol, is a naturally occurring cannabinoid which is especially prevalent in older cannabis or cannabis that has been heated significantly. They are 1:2 CBN:THC. Good for when making edibles isn’t an option. So Cbda->Thca->Cbna. I find it the perfect combo. I sometimes make edibles with reclaim, which I consider to be high in cbn, but still a lot of THC. the non-thc oil doesn't make me tired the next day. CBG (with minimal THC) Energizing, Calming (anxiety reduced heavily) and refreshing (like drinking a coffee) felt like I hit a refresh button for the day. . procrasturb8n. I am finding that edibles are becoming my go-to for sleeping. " One thing dispensaries couldn't get their patients is high amounts of alternative cannabinoids without getting them absolutely blasted. They're not as strong as I expected for me considering HHC is WAY stronger than D8 for me when vaped. I've gotten it online from 3chi. I was not ready for how strong these were, they felt almost psychedelic but very clear headed. the not well sealed up decarb always produces more cbn, along with a longer simmer. A lot of CBD is left in, but the oil can be very potent still. Yeah, not true. Even for CBN apparently. In this, I'll give my opinion on comparing MY experiences with THC, CBD, and CBG, and what they do best based on my experience using tons and tons of isolate and distillate, giving me pure effects without the entourage. CBN Heavy body sedation keeps me from wanting to get up and move I rather be a potato in bed even if I'm dying of thirst. I took half of one of their THCo (12. 10. You’ve actually just listed my top 3 favorite cannabinoids! Cbc is great to add to anything and everything, it’s increases the effects of other cannabinoids and provides a cerebral effect. I’m not a d8 fan so I much prefer the d9 variants that exist. but be aware that cannabis effects the sleep cycle a bit, usually REM sleep. Assuming you have an appropriate dropper as one ml ≈ 20 drops. 5 hour delay. Gummies and edibles can be intense if you haven’t had them before and I would definitely start with a half before diving in, depending on dosage. The HHC hits pretty fast and the o comes on just a lil later. Cannabinol or CBN is a degraded form of THC which occurs usually through oxidation. Not 100% sure, but CBN can be psychoactive (if it's not CBN, then it's definitely one other cannabinoid besides THC). 5mg thc with high CBN and CBD joint and it had zero these links all report tests with thca, thc and cbn levels. I make my own edibles and tons of them! I make edibles that will take you to the moon and I also make edibles for microdosing. THC/CBD/CBN or CBG that will help the sleep for sure. Just took a 83mg HHC edible. But at 350 degrees F, you start burning off the THC. Example: Store bought gummies - 10mg each. To get truly pure CBN, one would have to go to the pricier ones, generally. Our findings indicate that at 120 and 160°C, only 9. D8thco is rly nice it takes 30 mins to fully kick in it feels a lot like an edible high lol. 1%. We know you don’t like the limits. Even tho I’m an RSO gal, I think these are niiiiiiiiiiiice! I have so much trouble winding down and falling asleep. Then the CBD ones don't seem to contain any CBN at all and are usually closer to 1:1 or 1:2. Reddit makes heroic doses of cannabis seem “normal” but this is an echo chamber of hardcore stoners. I'll also note I'm pretty sensitive to most cannabinoids but I can see why some people say it can feel a little trippy, it was a very pleasant experience and felt kind of like being high r/weed is the legitimate, original and most inclusive marijuana community on Reddit. Tried THCP edibles for the first time. Next, microwave for 30 seconds. ago. I take about 10mg of delta 8 edible and 5mg of delta 9 a night for medical use. CBN is terrific stuff for anxiety and sleep. It can be derived through the oxidative degration of THC, while this process can occur naturally in small amounts it is often made through lab Try actual THC edibles with CBN. Normal joints edibles whatever, have been so paranoid causing for me, I’ve tried like 20+ and only once with an indica in a bong made from a milk carton made me laugh hysterically, every other time I attempted weed (20+ times) it has made me so paranoid or extremely anti social, I tried a 1. Synthetic cannabinoids for chemo nausea probably aren't gonna do a lot for pain either. This is why when you smoke it, there is a while before it kicks in. 5mg) for the first time and got very high. both work for sleep well. Idk where you're from but Camino, Cheeba Chews and Kiva are all brands with excellent CBN/THC edibles. If you're looking for cbn only, check into or look for cbn isolate. So I have a problem where I wake up after every sleep cycle, 3-4 times a night. If you can’t intake thc or HHC for drug testing reasons I highly recommend just making a MCT oil infusion, but if you’re sensitive to thc or HHC then just put a small amount like 10% or less. While more research ADMIN MOD. Share your photos and videos of sexy buds or cherished pieces. I use the leaf daytime, I think reused vaped material to make edibles for sleep. Asking because it seems my coco oil, never is even close to my canna butter for the same inputs, and similar dose. • 2 yr. High lasts longer than d9 or d8. The conversions I'm using are very conservative and my edibles still seem super weak compared to a store bought edible. THCA is usually the most prevalent cannabinoid in raw cannabis. One 2005 study found that CBN could help delay the onset of amyotrophic lateral sclerosis (ALS), a disease that affects cells in the brain and the spinal cord. Of course delta 8, HHC is great and minor noids boost the entire potency. Talk strains, first times, declarations to quit or take a 'T-break' and positive/negative experiences. 10mg 1:1 THC CBN Tranquility Capsules from Organic Remedies. 😆. CBN acts of both the CB1 & CB2 receptors (primarily CB2). It's 72mg THC, <2mg CBD, <1mg CBN per "serving. THCa, when eaten, isn't psychoactive, but it still has effects on the body. THC is intoxicating. If you want to use CBN and you’re sensitive to THC, then take CBN isolate by itself spaced several hours apart from D8 or hemp flower or full spectrum CBD oil. I want to test my home made edibles. CBN is a minor cannabinoid that typically develops as a byproduct of aging Tetrahydrocannabinol (THC). It seems like all the edibles that contain any CBN at every single location are THC > CBN by like 5x the amount of THC to CBN. If I plan on baking I'll keep it simple and just use oils that would taste good in baked good. It’s definitely a distillate cart but this 7:1 THC:CBG ratio is really cool, and has a noticeably different effect. Trulieve has some 5:1 thc:cbn pomegranate gummies, but those do not hit like the Müv cbn gummies for me. My own practice involved the administration of 25% CBN broad-spectrum oil, taking 7-12 drops 1-2 hours before either consuming an edible or vaping. Like, why? Usually just resort to edible oil to do the trick. Let's say SWIM has some HHC-O + CBN hash that they want to turn into edibles. They are right its through a degradation of thca that cbna is created through exposure to oxygen. It is slightly euphoric & is commonly known for its anti-inflammatory (& some claim, sleep aid) properties. Also 75mg of delta 9 seems to be a pretty threshold dose for me. For RSO I like the Rise the best, they seem the be the best and most consistent. Swallow them without chewing, your stomach knows what to do. Great for work or someone who is reliant on cannabinoids for pain management or even muscle relaxation. They're distinct but share some similarities, like being non-psychoactive. We have a ton of CBD/CBN (or CBC or CBG) edibles! Combine them with the D9 edibles she has already or some D8 or HHC from a place like mine and bam! check a cannabis boiling points chart, Terps and cannabinoids burn off starting around 247f. 40 for 20 capsules. I can eat handfuls of just thc gummies and get no feeling at all. I was OUT OF MY DAMN MIND from a 10mg/10/10 THC/CBD/CBN dose, which hit hours and hours after I had taken it. 1. That's why I go with whole hemp bud now. For me to even begin feeling edibles I have to start at 250mg of thc and about 50 CBN 50 cbg and 50 cbd. Looking for edibles that primarily have THC & CBN without CBD. Found this chart online. Very relaxing cannabinoid similar to delta 8 or CBG in the regard it's not an overly intoxicating 'noid. - I got some recently and made some cbn only edibles with it Shemham4ash. CBD reduces that to 0-1. Mix well. Get it directly from the source that a lot of brands buy from to use in their formulations. Usually do like 1/3 HHC/THCO/D8 and they hit pretty hard. HHC has a sharper come-up for me, but the peak effects diminish quickly. 175mg drops. Cbn the active non acid form comes from heat radiation or ultraviolet radiation exposure. It's a relaxing, but short-lived feeling. CBD is well-known for relaxation, while CBG, CBN, and CBC have varying potential health benefits. If you are looking for a faster onset time Wana makes a “quick” version of CBN gummies I believe they are called midnight berry. CBN (Cannabinol) was the first cannabinoid discovered in Cannabis and is structurally similar to THC (Tetrahydro-cannabinol) except it has and additional 2 double carbon bonds added to its C ring. I have several hundred grams of bubble hash from my outdoor grow this past year, I want to experiment with turning this F*cking hell it did. • 3 mo. I don’t know what you do for a living, but I do know some people who don’t even do CBD for fear of a positive drug test. If there isn't any CBD at all, then there is a good chance it is either isolated D9 from hemp extract or the isomerized CBD->D9. Will experiment more with higher dose, as I haven't made any high-dose pure HHC. Took forever for my tolerance from HHCp to drop though. If you have pain a 1:1 is a lot better than just straight THC or CBD. Roughly 2 to 2. Cbda comes before Thca in the metabolic synthesis process. I’ll take a couple, feel very little, and RANDOMLY 6-8hrs later will giggle with a nice body buzz. As a daily smoker and close to 200 lbs, I need to eat like 10 or 20 packs of candy. Find people with similar interests and discuss whatever you want related to weed. Is predisposed to anxiety, reported heightened anxiety and tension, also reported realisations of a need to improve character and love towards family. CBN was given in small amounts for a period of 12 weeks. 5 hours post-edible, I encountered feelings of anxiety and an unusual sense of stimulation, similar to the 'wired' sensation often described by others. Have tried both CBG isolate and 1:1 CBG:CBD full-spec tinctures. And I regularly eat 5mg edibles. They’re pretty awesome. First and foremost, if you do 1000mg edibles this poll is not for you. Anything with more cbd than thc is going to produce very minute amounts, if any, ‘high’. I took 4 mg in gummy format 22 hours ago and I'm still high. For this reason, CBN is usually found in Humans don't digest fat easily or well, so straight noids often go right through. In 6 months get another blood test and go from there. $90/10 grams. Or even when I use A LOT more cannabis in the oil than the butter. Best edible brand? Who’s doing it right? poll. I want to make high CBN edibles. RolandLiemen. I take 1 of the 30mg HHC watermelon gummies from 2 strains and they slap. Bro, the same amount of decarbed weed gets you wayyy more baked than the same amount smoked. I've heard good things, have only tried the pomegranate…. 4. Trying CBN along with broad spectrum CBD extract however might give you a good strength experience without being too trippy. Places like ZPE actually use responsibly low LOD%, and reveal this. It’s very psychedelic and Stoney. Reply. Any thoughts? I’m newer to making edibles. While d8 get intensely stronger in edible form, Thco does not. Neuroprotective properties. I had two slices of pizza for lunch around 1pm. Archived post. haha i was visiting a friend who worked at a store and got there on impulse. AFK-SM. "I make a "normal strength" and a "I want to sleep for 12 hours without interruption" It is heavenly. BigGayMule13. 5mg each. They’re still stronger than d8 but with the increased price you’re better off going for d8 at 3x the strength or d9 edibles. OBE, Lula…and use nothing else — then i doubt one would fail a drug test. Really euphoric and energetic, but not in the anxious “busy” way that some sativas cause (Like jean guy or animal face) Awesome experience, I just hope the cart doesn’t clog because I heard that spinach hardware sucks, but An interesting parameter as reported in this table is the relative % CBN formation from % THC degraded. 4 Hours between 150-175°F and done. I have read that softgels are both the "worst" and "best" way to ingest CBD. I am very familiar with making cannabutter, and decarboxylating my herb before adding it to the butter. Actually gives me a dank feeling. That’s what i ate the other day. 13 grams of a product I found at 95% cbno [it's an isolate] and mix that with one ml of mct oil you would be left with 6. I’d recommend Future Compounds. Does anyone have any advice on how to decarboxylate my weed in a way that converts more THC to CBN, my assumption is that I should decarboxylate my herb longer and/or hotter for higher CBN. • 3 yr. If in edibles my tolerance would be sky high again. At 2,700 mg of cannabinoids total, Neurogan CBN gummies are the most potent option out of all the CBN gummies we reviewed. CBN is also usually found in CBD oils as it is "made" from THC to comply with the law. Delta 8, delta 9, and CBN = a psychedelic sedating experience in high doses. Just ate a second. I’ll update my experience later. First I heard it was no good due to the body only absorbing about 2. Müv has 2:1 cbn:thc pomegranate punch gummies that actually hit me fairly well. I wish I could say any of it helps me get better sleep but my tolerance is pretty high. 0% and 7. You feel less anxious, if you are new. With the D9THCp i have I made sure to put it in vape to keep my tolerance low. CBN may also be a potent anti-inflammatory agent capable of helping those with rheumatoid arthritis. Birthdaybudreviews • 1 yr. 15mg of CBN is a great dose to promote a good nights sleep. You can sometimes find cbn distillate online. Have read conflicting info about softgels. H4CBD review. Anyone else absolutely love megadoses in edibles? Edibles. CBN actually is psychoactive but not akin to THC. Accomplished-Area160. Sleep tincture CBN/CBD co2 extracted. Usually takes 100mg of D8 to feel pretty high. Only downside is if you have a tolerance 1 pack may not give you the desired effects with only 10mg of THC. You’re activating the different cannabinoids at different temps. THCP. But those had cbg,cbc,and cbn also so that might have made it more sedative. Definitely has more of a kick than my typical CBD dose (200mg). I made a D8/Thco tincture as my first alt cannabanoid experience, 28 g of D8 and 14g of Thco in 8oz of MCT. • 10 mo. And you wouldn’t be converting THC to CBN. dabius_rekt. If they are specifically testing for CBD, you should be fine. I use Lazarus Naturals which is a trifecta of CBD, CBG, and CBN all on one. Smokies has some cbn gummies for sleep, unsure if just sold in Oregon dispos or if those are online also. When harvested or aging cannabis plants are exposed to heat, light, and oxygen for long periods of time, THC begins to change and break down. NSFW. OP • 2 yr. Cannabis flower, and live/full spectrum cannabis concentrates contain sometimes as much as 10-20% of the total active cannabinoid content as cannabinoids like CBG or CBN, and terpenes as well which have notable effects on mood 4. Personal experience. Pearls Strawberry Melon - 8 mg of CBN and about a dollar each, for me one is quite mild but I take it along with a couple puffs of a suitable indica and the CBN feels like it is deepening and lengthening the relaxing/sleepy effect. Thankfully I can order all the necessary ingredients online and make my own because the way they dose commercial gummies it’s not financially viable for me to use them in any capacity lol. 3. I always add some to my edibles I make on my days off where I’m ok just being glued to the couch. Either using a dry herb vaporizer or making my own edibles. Thco is processed by the endocrine system whether it’s smoked or ingested orally. Mix well and repeat. I have a high tolerance and edibles generally don't do much to me but this is another level. I’m assuming it’s the CBN that powers over the effects as I’ve had to lower the dropper dose for a comfortable sleep. i cut the gummies with 5mg thc ones in half or a quarter bec i can feel tired the next day. Reply reply. HHCO is pretty much a better stronger version of d8thco because HHC is closer to d9. Had maybe up to 100 mg with no other noids in a tincture. Subject1. It seems like the general consensus on this sub is no one really knows as of right now. 2g HHC tincture dose, which made me hyper (near manic I’d say) for like 3-4 hours, and then knocked me out for 24, where I woke up with the worst headache ever. I took 250mg D8 survived 3 hours and took another I nodded for an hour 3-4 hours into that one. 2. subject 2 - 500 - 700 mg dose - male mid 30's. 8%, respectively, of the total THC degraded appeared as CBN. My transplant was liver but I’m almost three years out with amazing blood work. Review/Experience. Only ate one don’t remember how long ago. like supporting her store. SinisterRectus. Just like other psychedelics, repeatedly using it reduces the psychedelic effect. I agree that CBG seems to be more potent at reducing chronic pain than CBD isolate or 'normal' CBD full-spec. Was wondering if anyone had a recommendation for where to get CBN gummies or some other type of edible, preferably in the northwest valley. Stick and three quarters unsalted butter. I was advised to try one to start as they are apparently potent. Hey guys, through a couple of reddit posts about accidentally decarbing wax too long and the product having knockout effects, I started doing… My tolerance must have dropped from 2 weeks no edibles. When I take 3 or more, about an hour later, I feel like I ate a somewhat strong edible and the feeling is very chill, relaxing and lasts about 4-5 hours. As part of that conversion, CBN is formed as a metabolite. I have the Good News Counting Sheep. figure about an hour for digestion an hour to get up and about 30-hour for the cannabis to settle in. You also get a lot more of the entourage effect with having the 1:1 because your cannabinoid receptors are getting more than just THC. I find this to be the same with vaping and edibles. The study also noted that pain relief was better when CBD and CBN were used together. CBN is a great cannabinoid for sleep aid and sedation. Also the Avexia 1:1 CBN:THC tincture. But I took 4 as I can normally take 300mg of D9. CBN is much better for sleep. IMO, we’re wasting money on edibles & RSO. SWIM was planning to put it all into some vegetable oil for easy use of droppers, etc. cbddistillery has cbd + cbn oil, and cbd+cbn+thc gummies. Before making this post I used the search function on this sub to search THC -> CBN conversion. There’s also a lot of questionable food dyes, flavor additives, and preservatives as well. For edibles I really like the cannaliscious RSO, redbud roots live rosin gummies and any live resin/ rosin edibles, Wyld ones for CBN and sleep, and also I like the Dream sea salt caramels 10-20 mg a piece as well. Think medterra has some. you could Reply. Together, you get a recipe for some deep relaxation and a long, restful night of sleep. the non thc oil makes me sleepy for 10-15 minutes. I can feel my heart beating a bit faster like it wants to kick in but I’m not high yet. THCP edibles are crazy strong. General-Pressure4644. I hate having disty stuck to my teeth after munching down on gummy edibles or any edible really with a lot of distillate Wisk till mixed and let set for 10 minutes to absorb. I love thco (d9o i haven’t tried yet but order on way) in my edibles because it makes them last longer. It was literal torture. Now, while it's warm, add the contents of your carts. I'd say it helps some with falling asleep but it's not like taking a sedative. As you'd expect of a cannabinoid, it has anti-inflammatory properties, and I don't really know much else about edible THCa, you'd have to look it up yourself. This is all this study tested. High THC and lower CBD/CBN is crucial. Is there any need to decarb, etc. Converting bubble hash into CBN questions. 5-3mg of every ten, which made sense. Every person is different. the high from the tch is a nice mellow buzz . No CBN in the program comes from cannabis, it’s all hemp based. National_Sea2948. If I eat half of one (5mg), I get sorta stoned. " Most likely this product only makes you feel mellow no ‘high’ because its mostly cbd and cbd derivatives that arent psychoactive like cbc, cbg, cbn etc…. I've heard people describe it as what you expect CBD to feel like. A lot of CBN “isolate” has residual D8 in it, leftover from the conversion process, when all impurities are not purged out. the thc gummey makes me more sleepy and the sleepiness lasts longer. $32. Gotta be my fav sort of high (if we don’t count how awful I feel after lol), just two days ago, I took a 1. Well if your doing store bought edibles then yes absolutely because your basically eating candy everyday. Every gummy contains a whopping 90 mg — 45 mg of CBD and 45 mg of CBN. A one to one feels like a more mild high. Edibles seem to be more full spectrum feel to it. I heard from several people on here that frequent use of HHC & THCO can kill your tolerance. Any of them are great! I would recommend mixing them to get the best high possible. Very harsh but when thinned with terpenes it's much more enjoyable to vape. Cbn is the sleep cannabinoid and cbg is the energy/focus cannabinoid. In one rodent study, CBN was shown to reduce arthritis. So try timing the edible out to hit like an hour or so before you actually want to be asleep. It's worth the read. Larger doses may be more similar to THC, but at that point, just take THC, or blend H4CBD with other noids. The strength cap is lame. I did a 90/10mg dose of HHC/HHCoA caps. It depends on what they test for. Do this 2-3 times till the powders are completely dissolved and the liquid looks clear. I got a pamphlet yesterday and it claims softgels dissolve well and u get "all mgs". CBD has "anti-psychotic" effects and CBN has sedative effects, so you want to minimize that. The massive amount of sugar is detrimental to our livers. May 12, 2015 · Anti-inflammatory. They often do the same things to some extent, and I'm giving The study also noted that pain relief was better when CBD and CBN were used together. • 1 yr. Since they are cbd:thc they will probably have smaller amounts of thc but it’s good to check. Just make sure to eat it with a little bit of non-plant based butter and eat like half a pack of >70% cocoa dark chocolate that has also more than 20g saturated fats per 100g, or I recommend letting decarbed weed sit in 50-80c butter for 5 hours, then cool down that and eat like 0 HHC edibles for me are generally less sedating than normal D8 edibes. All the noids are 25-30mg each, except cbn is unknown from the reclaim (and whatever else is still active and available) Sometimes I'll just use MCT, Coconut, avocado and olive. Anyone know of any? Usually what I’ve found are something like 1:2:1 THC:CBD:CBN. 30-40 is the sweet spot IMO. CBG and CBC specifically but also CBN. reach_boring. melaninanarchy. I rather like the THC/CBN edibles. •. For reference I need about 60mg d8 or 30-40mg d9 to get high high. Share. But, I have to be careful, because it does tend to have a similar stimulant effect to CBD, CBG, CBN, and CBC are different compounds found in the cannabis plant, each with unique effects. With a more body set in feel. This will probably lack structure because borderline illiterate. CBN isolate. Open Book Extracts (online). I find HHC gives me less of a total body high, more visual effects, and a more lifted feeling than D8. A little less sunshine and a bit more of an overcast feeling. If they’re testing for all cannabinoids-THC, CBD, Delta-9 are all cannabinoids-then, yes, CBD would trigger a positive. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. I tried THCP for the first time yesterday and lord almighty, it is strong. I just enjoy the feeling of having a coating of plastic on my teeth for 20 minutes or so, you won't die I promise. if you dont want to make 100% cbn then just decarb openly for longer, or decarb the material then put in it a dehydrator for a day and the hot air will keep oxidizing the thc that was made. Hi there. Each strain has a unique ratio of cannabinoids and terpenes so they can all have different effects but overall the combination of different cannabinoids is much more noticeable than any on their own. How's this look for a first ever batch of canna butter? Used 10-12 grams of ground picked weed. While Curio chews don’t work for me, the “Good Sleep” pills are lovely LOL. If not, rub some Everclear on your teeth. However at 200°C, the THC converted to CBN was 29. Frankly if it takes 100mg edible to get high, you 1) have that liver enzyme thing that doesn’t process edible cannabis, or 2) your tolerance is in the 99th percentile. But do additional research. Thanks for your help! Moved back down here from Canada and my favorite edibles up there were 2mg THC, 5mg CBN, and 10mg CBD. CBD + CBN makes me relaxed and sleepy. From my experience, the strongest of the Pearls gummies are the CBD / THC Pomegranate ones. Sep 27, 2023 · Strong hemp flavor. If you had an accurate scale to the thousandths you could measure out . Dissolved into 30ml avocado oil. The gummies are by Vivimu and 2. Be careful if you're planning to try THCP edibles for the first time! CBG in edibles will also have a different effect than when smoked, for similar reasons as THC (which the liver converts to 11-Hydroxy THC, the chemical responsible for the edible high), and I've found that in edibles it can increase the cerebral intensity of the high, and also helps me sleep, though edibles in general help me with that. •• Edited. CBN plus a thc or HHC is a better combo you don’t have to put much of the psychoactive ones but a little helps with sleep. THCA converts to THC, and THC converts to CBN with time and/or heat. Unscrewed a Forge Hemp cartridge and emptied out 83mg (just what happened to come out). • 5 mo. The effects hit both after about a 1. But I have never, ever been this high on anything, not during my bong/gas-mask/blunt shotgun/hot-boxing cars days, not even on LSD or mushrooms. jk sb sk ut li jd hc ac iz hn